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		<title>By: quantum probability</title>
		<link>http://fourcultures.com/2009/09/17/for-my-next-trick-i-will-try-to-understand-nicholas-taleb/#comment-2170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quantum probability]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I don&#039;t really get what these terms mean: Individualist, Fatalist, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I don&#8217;t really get what these terms mean: Individualist, Fatalist, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcoux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcoux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commercials these days have really become creative. I like the concept of not letting the viewer know what they are trying to advertise which prompts them to go view a website about it, Google it, etc. I like incorporating these marketing strategies in my own work here in Kansas City Missouri at]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commercials these days have really become creative. I like the concept of not letting the viewer know what they are trying to advertise which prompts them to go view a website about it, Google it, etc. I like incorporating these marketing strategies in my own work here in Kansas City Missouri at</p>
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		<title>By: fourcultures</title>
		<link>http://fourcultures.com/2009/09/17/for-my-next-trick-i-will-try-to-understand-nicholas-taleb/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fourcultures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is interesting. People have tried to pin down the cultural biases of nations before now, but I&#039;m not sure any one has tried the same with age cohorts. It reminds me of Churchill&#039;s saying that anyone who&#039;s not a socialist at 20 has no heart and anyone who still is a socialist at 40 has no head. He could see the bias in others but not in himself. I wonder if there&#039;s really an age when we get wise. I&#039;m still waiting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting. People have tried to pin down the cultural biases of nations before now, but I&#8217;m not sure any one has tried the same with age cohorts. It reminds me of Churchill&#8217;s saying that anyone who&#8217;s not a socialist at 20 has no heart and anyone who still is a socialist at 40 has no head. He could see the bias in others but not in himself. I wonder if there&#8217;s really an age when we get wise. I&#8217;m still waiting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fourcultures</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fourcultures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See mynext post about theory, Meika.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See mynext post about theory, Meika.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Grid-Group cultural theory really a theory? &#171; Fourcultures</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Grid-Group cultural theory really a theory? &#171; Fourcultures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Fourcultures &#8220;Opening up the horizon for something else&#8221;      &#171; For my next trick I will try to understand Nicholas&#160;Taleb [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fourcultures &#8220;Opening up the horizon for something else&#8221;      &laquo; For my next trick I will try to understand Nicholas&nbsp;Taleb [...]</p>
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		<title>By: meika</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: Predictive Power

&#039;Considering the Fatalist&#039; always make me think I wander around the grid-group matrix in a fuzzy way, albeit with a strong preference/attraction to one corner opposite the fatalist.

But maybe there is a strong and weak bias (following on from my other comments on vested interests-- when &#039;truth&#039; finally measures reckoning...) and that one&#039;s bias is as much the most practiced as the most favoured, and should environment or conditions change, and one&#039;s questions oneself, and so swings close to the centre pole of the grid-groupmatrix. Here, one may be sway by other biases, at least for a little while in a limited if illuminating fashion (rather than truth itself having a moderating influence outside of convention and social compromise).

The ranting and professional lunatics of all sides do not moderate at all (that might be genetic too I guess). But editors use their opinions to sell to that proclivity.

One can display movements according to different biases at the same time in different realms of life, though the weak bias may well be less obvious. I know when it comes to the economic sphere I am a complete fatalist and don&#039;t believe anyone at all.

Keep your head down!

But I don&#039;t _consciously_ identify in broader political/social groupings representing fatalism (which does seem completely bound to an anti-intellectual pro-practicality identification in the west) which, one might say, are not well represented anyway. Nor do I seek to promote it, as I feel I should with my stronger natural biases, so perhaps the weaker bias that I posit is learned as an adult moving through the world, and it moderates the earlier &#039;natural&#039; bias rather than motivates.

This is a way (including life pathways) of adding a higher order  recursion to the grid-group theory. As it stands the grid-group theory would define the first bias (the stronger) and in it&#039;s pure form would represent the adolescent worldviews, unsullied by contact with the real world (of nature, politics and the economy etc).

Once we grow up we learn a second weaker bias, which we sneakingly hope is not true, but in our despairing moments feel might be true, and our younger &#039;natural bias&#039; is mere idealistic dreaming.

I hesitate to call this second bias &#039;mature&#039;.

PREDICTION: The more people in a society that grow old enough to escape the super-hero adolescent purity of strong grid-group worldviews into the &#039;maturity&#039; of the &#039;real world&#039;, the more tolerant (liberal) that society can be of differing worldviews.

Meta-prediction: The predictive power of grid-group theory will be most accurate in demographically &#039;young&#039; mindset societies. (young might just mean badly educated or restricted to minority status as an adult -- considering the religious and nationalistic swing in post-soviet societies).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Predictive Power</p>
<p>&#8216;Considering the Fatalist&#8217; always make me think I wander around the grid-group matrix in a fuzzy way, albeit with a strong preference/attraction to one corner opposite the fatalist.</p>
<p>But maybe there is a strong and weak bias (following on from my other comments on vested interests&#8211; when &#8216;truth&#8217; finally measures reckoning&#8230;) and that one&#8217;s bias is as much the most practiced as the most favoured, and should environment or conditions change, and one&#8217;s questions oneself, and so swings close to the centre pole of the grid-groupmatrix. Here, one may be sway by other biases, at least for a little while in a limited if illuminating fashion (rather than truth itself having a moderating influence outside of convention and social compromise).</p>
<p>The ranting and professional lunatics of all sides do not moderate at all (that might be genetic too I guess). But editors use their opinions to sell to that proclivity.</p>
<p>One can display movements according to different biases at the same time in different realms of life, though the weak bias may well be less obvious. I know when it comes to the economic sphere I am a complete fatalist and don&#8217;t believe anyone at all.</p>
<p>Keep your head down!</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t _consciously_ identify in broader political/social groupings representing fatalism (which does seem completely bound to an anti-intellectual pro-practicality identification in the west) which, one might say, are not well represented anyway. Nor do I seek to promote it, as I feel I should with my stronger natural biases, so perhaps the weaker bias that I posit is learned as an adult moving through the world, and it moderates the earlier &#8216;natural&#8217; bias rather than motivates.</p>
<p>This is a way (including life pathways) of adding a higher order  recursion to the grid-group theory. As it stands the grid-group theory would define the first bias (the stronger) and in it&#8217;s pure form would represent the adolescent worldviews, unsullied by contact with the real world (of nature, politics and the economy etc).</p>
<p>Once we grow up we learn a second weaker bias, which we sneakingly hope is not true, but in our despairing moments feel might be true, and our younger &#8216;natural bias&#8217; is mere idealistic dreaming.</p>
<p>I hesitate to call this second bias &#8216;mature&#8217;.</p>
<p>PREDICTION: The more people in a society that grow old enough to escape the super-hero adolescent purity of strong grid-group worldviews into the &#8216;maturity&#8217; of the &#8216;real world&#8217;, the more tolerant (liberal) that society can be of differing worldviews.</p>
<p>Meta-prediction: The predictive power of grid-group theory will be most accurate in demographically &#8216;young&#8217; mindset societies. (young might just mean badly educated or restricted to minority status as an adult &#8212; considering the religious and nationalistic swing in post-soviet societies).</p>
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